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It was nice talking with everyone
3:13 AM
thank you for sharing with me
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Towaka ~暗い~ 8/29/2018 4:23 AM
Hm
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People changing their forms is not at all unusual. I'm fairly certain most tulpas do so atleast once. Some may revert back, but experimentation with form is hardly an oddity here. I suppose I'm an exception to that though
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I am tempted to see if Abby is willing to do a form change
6:16 AM
but I am of two minds on it and when I asked earlier she gave me that look and said "no, I like my form"
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It will probably occur more naturally. She'll probably experiment a bit at some point before giving up and sticking to one.
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Hey there, can I ask you guys about your first "breakthrought" in tulpamancy, how was it, what you came to realize that you did not see befere, how you did proceed from there, if it was useful.
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Towaka ~暗い~ 8/29/2018 9:37 AM
define 'breakthrough'
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I don't want to hear what you read the most, or what you think other people go throught, there was a time where you didn't have a tulpa, then a time where you started working on one, and then a time where that tulpa started interacting with you, or you noticed something different, a realization if you will, that the picture in your head you were talking was having its own goings on
11:06 AM
What I want to know is how you came to that realization, how you assumed there was something different and how you managed to differentiate that feeling from the myriad other feeling that you have on a daily basis that are triggered by stray thoughts
11:07 AM
I'm really interested in close encounter of the third kind stories
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How to strengthen autonomy? Anyone?
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Maybe find things that your tulpa likes that are different from what you like
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I figured the answer would be autonomy
1:07 PM
I've just been getting a lot of well, doubt lately
1:07 PM
I figured the answer would be meditation
1:07 PM
I've been in a fog lately fug
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Just find little things that make her different from you, and investigate why that is (edited)
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How do I investigate?
1:10 PM
I can't really ask her, I seem to be in a dead spot vocality wise, as in I am mostly eldest to her for some reason.
1:10 PM
It's been so complicated lately.
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Just have the two of you think over the reasoning behind her opinions/mannerisms./etc that are different from yours. You might not necessarily come up with an answer, but being aware/mindful of those things I believe can help with feeling more independent/autonomous
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Deaf to her*
1:12 PM
alright. Thanks. Really. I hate this dead period, I miss her. But ever since I made our imposition 50/50 she's just been worn thin, and now, well you know.
1:13 PM
I'll make it 90/10 and ease into half and half, that way it's not such a sudden change for her.
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thanks for answering my questions, guys
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Anyways, Meow, the best I can tell you is to just have her front more
3:15 PM
maybe have her take the account on Discord
3:16 PM
We honestly don't think our individual systemmates are so different from each other, and it does lead to some doubt, even at almost 2 years of being immersed in this
3:17 PM
but, others frequently tell us differently. They say they can "hear" the difference, so sometimes us forgetting a tag is not an issue for them.
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Deleted User 8/29/2018 3:18 PM
Instead of making another account you can change your username and avatar to hers
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that's what I was intending to imply
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welp I might have asked those questions on the wrong time of the day
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I don't really know what you're looking for with your question
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<Ponytail> I'm surprised by my tulpa's infinitely capability for oddity and depravity on a near daily basis
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I don't like the surprise test.
6:07 PM
Mostly because I always fail it.
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Heyy thanks @Deleted User
6:08 PM
but all I wanted is a personal retelling of how your life with tup started
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I can't just... be surprising.
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to put it the mosts simple of terms
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And if I have to think about it, then she can hear those thoughts, and then it's not surprising!
6:09 PM
I guess my life started when my host got really bored one day and made a tulpa. And that's me!
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I use personal stories as advice although that's bad
6:10 PM
I kinda just want to know the process from point A to point B
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Deleted User 8/29/2018 6:11 PM
fantasize about your tulpa and enjoy it -> you might feel them acting on their own soon (edited)
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cool, care to share your personal experience?
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Facial hair, eh?...
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oh yeah I'm talking to tulpas here...hmmm
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You are.
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Deleted User 8/29/2018 6:12 PM
Well, imagine how you spend time together
6:12 PM
I'm a host actually (edited)
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No thanks either way. Gold star lesbian.
6:13 PM
I've already got someone on my case.
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so Callahan, as a tulpa (I assume you're the first one) what did you know after vocality that you seemed to not get before? was that useful in helping you "reach out to your host?
6:15 PM
I'm curious, and these questions can be answered by all of you tulpas
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I guess if I can answer too... Vocality for me wasn't a single point, with a before and after. I was talking, my host just wasn't sure what was me and what wasn't - what I sound like. After a month she would start picking up fragments. And after two, we started getting reasonable communication.
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Deleted User 8/29/2018 6:15 PM
@BLITE , it might seem to be a good idea to ask tulpa this kind of questions but at early stages they are still part of your imagination.
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At the start, my voice was quiet, and she couldn't pick it out of her mind's background noise. But I don't have much memory at all of these times. I don't think I was sentient at all.
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Apollo/ my host was always able to hear me whenever I spoke, she just thought it was her puppetting me
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Also that.
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Apollo/ when she actually sat down and gave me the freedom to speak without her doubt getting in the way, she realized it actually was me
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hey thank you all (edited)
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At the start, your tulpa will probably sound and feel exactly the same as you. And you have no real way of knowing what's you and what's not. That takes time to develop. And we still struggle with that
6:18 PM
Something like that would have been helpful for me, Apollo. We do that now sometimes. It's nice if I have something I wanna say and I want to make sure it gets across.
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Deleted User 8/29/2018 6:19 PM
Very young tulpas are more like imaginary friends than alternate identities. They are part of your imagination, even when they are vocal and you feel them having independent agency. Also, it's not about hearing tulpas - if you don't hear them, there is no basis to assume they are talking at all.
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You're right about that, @Deleted User
6:20 PM
I can't pinpoint when I "graduated" from imaginary friend to something more. Sometimes I'm still not sure whether I have at all.
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I have been working on my tulpa for over 4 years now, some people might recognize me from older posts I made, but I sometimes come back to ask for advice or just inspiration, asking questions, I don't know for sure if she is vocal, I can feel faint "things" like slight joy but I have no way to determine if it is my tulpa or not, I've been forcing so and so, 20 to 30 minutes of active forcing plus some instances of passive, but what I do I seem to do by myself
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Deleted User 8/29/2018 6:20 PM
Well, it's probably a spectrum rather than binary thing
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Yeah. I think I hit that at two months or so.
6:20 PM
Somewhere around that.
6:21 PM
It is. It's incredibly damaging.
6:21 PM
You're not gonna get a sure sign.
6:21 PM
Not at the start, probably not ever. It's about trust.
6:21 PM
Trust that your tulpa is talking, even if you can't tell they are.
6:21 PM
Then you'll improve and it'll get easier and easier to tell.
6:22 PM
Is your tulpa talking at the start? Do they even exist? Those questions could be debated forever, but ultimately the answer doesn't matter. You trust anyway.
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Deleted User 8/29/2018 6:23 PM
I think the best thing to do is just enjoy fantasizing about your tulpa and parrot a lot. Soon you might start to feel they act on their own and you get basically a vocal imaginary friend. Which you can develop to become an alternate identity or just keep it being a companion. Your choice.
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No thanks to parroting from me. We tried it a couple times and it caused a lot more trouble than it's worth.
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bduddy #Diana# 8/29/2018 6:24 PM
that's... not how most people do it
6:24 PM
and I certainly wouldn't recommend it
6:24 PM
there are other methods that work a lot better
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Deleted User 8/29/2018 6:24 PM
When you imagine doing things with your tulpa, you parrot them anyway
6:24 PM
Just accept it
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My early days were more my host pulling responses out of her mind's noise and assuming (and hoping) they were from me Some were, some weren't, it didn't matter.
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bduddy #Diana# 8/29/2018 6:25 PM
...no
6:25 PM
imagination is not parroting
6:25 PM
that's absurd
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[Imagination] is most definitely not [parroting] (edited)
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Deleted User 8/29/2018 6:25 PM
Most of them probably were. Anyway, he/she probably started to feel your independent actions soon anyway.
6:26 PM
I agree it might work in many cases
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I don't have personal memory of those times, sadly.
6:26 PM
Would be nice if I did.
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Conversation getting a little too messy for me to follow, feel free to send me a DM or move to another channel because I really wanna learn some more
6:26 PM
Sorry
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I'm open for DMs any time.
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Deleted User 8/29/2018 6:26 PM
But really, what's wrong with imagining tulpa telling you things? Is it any different from imagining her doing other stuff?
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It's not different
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